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Buddy picks up 40hp on the dyno with a jet change wow

68Chevele

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No one friend who is a class racer said he picked up almost 40 hp just jetting the Holley on his new BBC. Last time they used it was on his old combo and seemed to run well but without a wide band you're just guessing and that's what he was going I guess. He also said that with the dual plane intake they has to crossjet the carburetor to get it right. That's a ton of power to pick up from something so simple.

Sorry I can't give you guys any numbers as these guys are pretty secretive on this kind of stuff.
 
Talked to a guy the runs stock & he has an O2 sensor in each tube. He's from a well known racing family.
Don't know how much gains he made but he did a lot of stagger jetting & maybe even some zip ties on boosters.
 
Most people could care less about gas mileage with a high perf engine, but I'd like to approach 18 mpg with my 489 BBC.
Impossible ? Maybe.
I just ordered a center body for my Holley 850 double-pumper and it has annular boosters.
Those boosters can greatly increase the lower rpm signal when the engine is loafing down the interstate in overdrive.
I now have 3 setups to try. An 850 quadrajet that's made for 525 hp and two different 850 double-pumpers,
one with down-leg and the other with annular boosters.
I will have 02 sensors installed so it should be fun tuning this.
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Most people could care less about gas mileage with a high perf engine, but I'd like to approach 18 mpg with my 489 BBC.
Impossible ? Maybe.
I just ordered a center body for my Holley 850 double-pumper and it has annular boosters.
Those boosters can greatly increase the lower rpm signal when the engine is loafing down the interstate in overdrive.
I now have 3 setups to try. An 850 quadrajet that's made for 525 hp and two different 850 double-pumpers,
one with down-leg and the other with annular boosters.
I will have 02 sensors installed so it should be fun tuning this.
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Here's something you'll find interesting. A few years back I raced my 461 BBC and while testing both of my 850 Mighty Demons, the down leg version bested the A/D booster model every time no matter where I jetted that one.
 
A few years back I raced my 461 BBC and while testing both of my 850 Mighty Demons, the down leg version bested the A/D booster model every time no matter where I jetted that one.
Interesting. The annular booster doesn't flow as much air as a downleg but it's supposed to give much better mixing/atomization of the fuel.
It will be fun testing the different boosters and seeing if my 850 quadrajet can come close to the 850 double-pumpers performance.
 
Anyone ever use a 4780 holley? Seems it's a bit of a strange carb, having unequal venturis, primary is 1 3/8, secondary is 1 7/16. The other day I used the '67 Elky as a test mule to tune the 800 DP I had on the shelf, the little 396 loved it! I used 70/78 jetting. I'm going to run it on the L72.
 
If you have a little bit of a performance type cam how would you Jet for low rpm putting around town and higher rpm when you want to get up and Go? I did a little low speed putting around town a little while ago but never went into 4th gear to try not to load engine up with black crap on the pistons, my engine builder told me that crap will burn off with some good WOT and heat in the engine just like a self cleaning oven but I didn’t think to ask him (guess I should) how to prevent getting the black crap build up in the first place, also went to the car wash, I think “Kathy’s” birds like to Zero In on our vehicles haha
 

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That info should be in your "spark plug" thread ? Wasn't that the title ?
Where we talked about O2 gauge readings
 
I came across this on a 3rd gen Camaro website. Sounds like good advice to me - it's a "sticky" on their website

Re: need help tuning my holley



On a Holley, 1 jet size is an imperceptibly small step. 2 jet sizes is a tiny but noticeable step. 3 jet sizes is a standard adjustment. 4-5 jet sizes is a big step.

Look at your primary jets. Whatever size they are, buy some that are 2 sizes, 4 sizes, 5 sizes, and 6 sizes smaller; and 2 sizes larger. You'll be needing them.

First, set the fuel level. If it has sight plugs, set the primary one to where gas dribbles out while the engine is idling, when you just bump the fender; and set the sec one to where you have to jiggle the car pretty good to get it to come out.

Lean the primary jets (using the "step size" description above) until the car just barely starts to surge while cruising (55-60 mph) at a steady speed on a level highway and it starts going up a hill. Ignore all other misbehavior of any kind for the time being. Once you find that point, go back up 2 jet sizes.

Once you get it to do that, look at the primary side power valve. If it's stock, it's probably a 65. Stupid. Raise the value until the flat spot goes away when you're in high gear and driving along at about 35 mph (basically, as slow as you can possibly go in high gear), and you give it gas. It'll take a MUCH higher number power valve.... probably a 105 or a 125. If it starts giving you the burn-your-eyes idle, go back down one step.

When you get that right, set the idle speed right (800 RPM out of gear, say); then get the idle mixture right by turning each pimary idle screw in until the RPM drops, then back it back out 1/8 turn. Shut the motor off, and average the 2 screws (like, if one is 5/8 turn out, and one is 7/8 turn out, set them both to 3/4 turn out), and restart the motor, and check them again. Repeat until they're equal, or until you have determined that they absolutely CANNOT be made equal. In no case should they be more than 1/8 turn different.

Take the carb off, flip it over, and look at the transition slot. You want less than .050" of it exposed below the pri throtle blades. If more of it is exposed than that (it will be), open the sec throttles with their idle screw, 1/8 turn; put the carb back on; re-set the idle speed and mixture; then pop the carb back off and look at it. Repeat until you have between .030" and .050" of the transition slot showing.

At this point, the thing should run like a bat outta hell, on the primaries. The secondaries could be just about anywhere. Put a 65 power valve in them, if they don't already have that; and select jets for max ¼ mile mph.

At that point, you'll have your Holley set up better than about 95% of all other Holley owners. You'll be getting nearly the same gas mileage as you would with a Q-jet, and you'll be making 20% more power than most cars with the same cam & heads, and FI.
 
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