My 69 project

[1969chevmalibu1969]

Did you take a bunch of tear down pics?

12997 photo and over 700 video on just this phone (not all the car) I have to go threw to find just certain objective then add the countless old down loaded on the computer. I’m picture and video happy.

 

[Chevelle_Nut]

12997 photo and over 700 video on just this phone (not all the car) I have to go threw to find just certain objective then add the countless old down loaded on the computer. I’m picture and video happy.

Great! You will need them, I didn't have that many but I referred back to them a lot.

 

[kmakar]

Good call in joining the group, and welcome. I like where you're heading with your '69. If I may, try not to rush to sand blast all your unpainted parts, there are methods to get back to a factory finish and if you blast it, you'll never achieve true originality. Brass, raw steel, cad, black oxide, zinc, gray phosphate, and gold iridite are just a few of the common finishes that make a classic pop when you open the hood. Tedious, maybe, but imo, that's the pleasure of the build. You've entered a wealth of knowledge here.

And that's what makes you a great guy Jerry. Thanks for being here and sharing your knowledge with all of us.

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

Great! You will need them, I didn't have that many but I referred back to them a lot.

Some problems I have are for example switching from drum to disk. Have lots for drum but I have to figure now disk. That has been a challenge trying to find how the original went on the 69. Mike from brake booster and some tc members have been helpful.

 

[Chevelle_Nut]

You can look at aftermarkets, Right stuff has a good product and they work just fine. Only issue I had on the 69 I did was the calipers rubbed the wheels, a little grinding on the calipers solved that.

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

You can look at aftermarkets, Right stuff has a good product and they work just fine. Only issue I had on the 69 I did was the calipers rubbed the wheels, a little grinding on the calipers solved that.

Not sure what you mean by aftermarket stuff from right stuff. I tracked down 69 Chevelle brake parts from spindles to calipers. Just need some rebuild kits maybe right stuff has that also. Right now I’m trying to see what brake lines from my drum set kit I ordered will work for the disk. How they run and the proportion valve/distribution block what’s needed for 69. I think it’s just the distribution block.Also thanks for all the help and advice from all here.

 

[Chevelle_Nut]

"Right Stuff" is an aftermarket conversion vendor

You have original stuff, awesome! Right Stuff carries prebent brake lines

https://www.getdiscbrakes.com/

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

Here is a picture of how far I was on my front drum before I switched.

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

"Right Stuff" is an aftermarket conversion vendor

You have original stuff, awesome! Right Stuff carries prebent brake lines

https://www.getdiscbrakes.com/

These are from what I have for the front line drum kit I ordered. I think some will work. I just have to figure which do and which to change. Picture shows my originals red capped ones are new kit ones. Already started front to rear, which I think is right.? Rear to distribution block. Thanks again.

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

Good call in joining the group, and welcome. I like where you're heading with your '69. If I may, try not to rush to sand blast all your unpainted parts, there are methods to get back to a factory finish and if you blast it, you'll never achieve true originality. Brass, raw steel, cad, black oxide, zinc, gray phosphate, and gold iridite are just a few of the common finishes that make a classic pop when you open the hood. Tedious, maybe, but imo, that's the pleasure of the build. You've entered a wealth of knowledge here.

Thanks I appreciate the advice. I will try to keep from the sandblasting til I research restoring. Not sure what you think of powder coating things.? For example I was planning to powder backing plate, springs and brackets.?

 

[cheveslakr]

Powder coating has it's place, but I'm an epoxy believer, then finish off with urethane topcoat. Whatever you put in between those layers is far less important. The problem I have with powdercoat is it's not easily repairable, and it offers less corrosion protection than epoxy over preparred metal. The benefit of powder coating is it's hard shell finish, which is superior on brackets, pulleys and underpinnings which see a lot of abuse.

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

Thanks again for your advice. I did plan to paint a lot of things. Suspension parts painted, rear painted. I was just wanting to powder a few parts as springs, a few brake parts, brackets. I wanted to black oxide some of my bolts and such if the are reusable. Also when it comes to me painting I’d appreciate your input even though it a beaten dead horse subject with many options. I would rather paint. I also think I know powder is not original.?

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

"Right Stuff" is an aftermarket conversion vendor

You have original stuff, awesome! Right Stuff carries prebent brake lines

https://www.getdiscbrakes.com

Thanks, gave them a call and they were very helpful. ordered new front lines. Now the drum kit goes with all the other drum stuff.

 

[Alan F]

Not sure what you mean by aftermarket stuff from right stuff. I tracked down 69 Chevelle brake parts from spindles to calipers. Just need some rebuild kits maybe right stuff has that also. Right now I’m trying to see what brake lines from my drum set kit I ordered will work for the disk. How they run and the proportion valve/distribution block what’s needed for 69. I think it’s just the distribution block.Also thanks for all the help and advice from all here.

Doo you have spindles? Drum brake spindles can be converted but it takes some heavy drilling. Steering arms are the same. The hard lines are the same from disk to drum. YOu just need the hoses outboard of the hard lines to use the disk brakes. Other than that and compressing the springs, it's pretty easy.

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

Looking though old phone photos.

Doo you have spindles? Drum brake spindles can be converted but it takes some heavy drilling. Steering arms are the same. The hard lines are the same from disk to drum. YOu just need the hoses outboard of the hard lines to use the disk brakes. Other than that and compressing the springs, it's pretty easy.

yes I have new (old) spindles that came with all the original 69 disk set. I read a few threads and maybe a good sticky at tc that showed how to use the drum spindles. Glad I don’t have to do that. As for the lines, I called right stuff and ended up just ordering new correct lines. I’ll just put the drum kit with all the other mostly new stuff I got. Drums will make a comeback right . Thanks for your help though I do like and need it. Good group of guys here. To add right stuff was very helpful and I ordered this morning, got a confirmation it s on route by this afternoon.

 

[Alan F]

I didn’t address the master cylinder info. The 1969 year disk brake setup is unique to 1969. There’s a master cylinder, the golfball looking hold off valve and the distribution block. Disk brakes use a different master cylinder than drums due to the amount of fluid the calipers take to move. If it were me, I’d upgrade to the combination valve found from 71 onward and use the 71 master cylinder and hard lines from the master to the combo valve. I also like the aftermarket combo valve that mounts right off of the master cylinder but it’s an obvious conversion. One of the reasons I was asking if you wanted to retain authenticity. If so, all you need is the hold off valve, master cylinder and new brake lines between the master cylinder, hold off valve and the distribution block.

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

I didn’t address the master cylinder info. The 1969 year disk brake setup is unique to 1969. There’s a master cylinder, the golfball looking hold off valve and the distribution block. Disk brakes use a different master cylinder than drums due to the amount of fluid the calipers take to move. If it were me, I’d upgrade to the combination valve found from 71 onward and use the 71 master cylinder and hard lines from the master to the combo valve. I also like the aftermarket combo valve that mounts right off of the master cylinder but it’s an obvious conversion. One of the reasons I was asking if you wanted to retain authenticity. If so, all you need is the hold off valve, master cylinder and new brake lines between the master cylinder, hold off valve and the distribution block.

Thanks for the great info. This is exactly what I need. I think I have everything, except mounting bolts. I have the hold off/ metering valve. Also I either need to rebuild my calipers or have it done. My goal is to try to go as original as I can. I can’t remember if I posted pictures here my m/c and booster. I’ll go back through this thread and see. If not I’ll post.

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

M/c, booster and hold off. Thanks mike at brake booster.

 

[Alan F]

Your stuff looks great. Do you have the brake lines that connect it all to your original distribution block?

 

[1969chevmalibu1969]

Your stuff looks great. Do you have the brake lines that connect it all to your original distribution block?

I ordered all new brake lines when I was going to redo my drums, so I got all new drum lines. Front to rear and a 6 piece front drum set. Then I found a original front disk set-up on cl. After some research and help from here, tc, and mike. I’ve found some answers. Then yesterday talking to right stuff I found I could use my front to rear line to distribution block. But line from there would change. Although I found have made the drum lines work. I just ended up ordering the right stuff. My problem is all my pictures and a lot of my research went into drum set-up and 4+ pages in the manual it’s hard to read some of the writing. I just want to say again thanks for all the help.