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69 L89 Elky

cheveslakr

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I've seen this car plastered over every forum and read quite a bit of commentary and reviewed the BaT ad several times. What I can't get beyond is it's a Fremont car, yet has a vin. stamp above the oil filter and the head mating surface has been decked. Viewing the stamp, it's digits are of different size, and EVERY vin. I've seen in '69 has identical size digits, without exception. This leaves ALL credibility off the table. It's a Fremont car which I've had over a dozen in my possession and still have 3 that have fremont engines, 2 are original. I've never, and it's been widely known and documented on "chevellestuff" that fremont has 0 examples of this procedure. All partial vins are stamped on the head mating surface. Then there's the crisp build sheet that I'll fully admit, I'm no expert, but I see 0 evidence of this sheet being wrinkles, discolored, or any other markings that are consistent with a sheet residing in the door panel, under the carpet, or in the seat springs where 99% of them have been tossed. Then there's the name Chris White, who is a well respected authority, one of only 4 that I put as indisputable to the '70 models' authentication and Chris is well versed on the '69s as well. I have spoken many times with Chris, he knows his shit and can work most of his knowledge into a conversation without searching. Chris is mentioned as documenting this car. That, to the best of my knowledge has been hearsay, and not proven. Chris hasn't contributed to these discusssions. So I suspect a bit of foul play and misrepresentation in his name. I'd respond to TC's discussion but somebody devalued my contributions awhile back, so here I am. Anyway, the bidding has not garnered what an uber rare car would garner, so maybe those that know are just silent on the matter, who knows. Anyway, a couple here have seen this and are privy, so I thought it's worth posting.


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I don't know Fremont cars very well, everything I ever see in my area is from Leeds.

The POP and dealer paperwork looks legit to me. Build sheet looks like a photocopy?

Neat car if it's real!
 
The pop doesn't give any more info about the car than the trim tag itself, but it does add the purchaser's info. The buildsheets being copies still would have the degradation evident. The tranny stamp even looks wrong. As said, the real buyers will steer clear of this car. All that's necessary is to get a known example of both stamps and compare. In '69, the Leeds and Atlanta plants are the only known plants to stamp above the filter. As for the dealer paperwork, I couldnt' see anything that couldn't be faked much easier that even the build sheet.
More the point, this car would have been called out in the 2nd post over at TC back 20 years ago. Back when Chris, Rick Nelson, Jim Brady and Dale were active contributors. Now we have to be "entrtained" by BLM and Gene, and others that love the color.
 
I'll admit I don't know that much about the stampings, location, and validity, but based on what you said Jerry (as I trust your judgment), no way I'd buy it for that kind of coin. It'd have to pass the litmus test with you and a few others before I'd consider it.
 
Chris White's full inspection report is shown if you look at all the pictures. If he says it is real, I believe it.

POP gives all the codes for the engine, transmission, and rear axle. I flipped the photo so it's easier to read.

KG = L89
C = M22
KK = 4.10 POSI

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I didn't realize the engine code was on the pop, That said, they've been faked and the fakes are getting very good. I've got a call into Chris, and won't say much more till that conversation.
 
I really like Elkys and this is one Beautiful Truckster but I’d never pay that kind of coin for one, wonder what it’d be worth if it wasn’t a Real Deal?
 
I was watching this auction and like this El Camino honestly, but I really don’t know much about L89 engines...L78’s I know very well, so can somebody please explain to me why the L89 with aluminum heads is still rated at 375hp like in the description? What makes the L89 so desirable?
 
I was watching this auction and like this El Camino honestly, but I really don’t know much about L89 engines...L78’s I know very well, so can somebody please explain to me why the L89 with aluminum heads is still rated at 375hp like in the description? What makes the L89 so desirable?
Less weight is about all it offers. Same basic head, just in aluminum instead of cast iron.
I heard this went for 172k ? Not an Elky fan so this sounds crazy to me !
 
Yeah, weight savings is about it, and of course extreme rarity. Straight up comparison, I'd put money on the iron heads. These 842 heads didn't have a great following.
Chris White never returned my call and it's a moot point except for what this car has done to rewriting the books if it is indeed legit. It's so odd that nobody has addressed this.
Me personally, I like to drive my cars, and with today's insane lawlessness, driving a car like this would be a huge risk unless you're surrounded with good company.
 
Being sold new at Alan Green helps add a little to my belief that it's real.

Alan Green was very involved in racing, fielding Z/28 Camaros in Trans-Am, altered wheelbase Nova in drag-racing, several famous Corvettes in SCCA, and I think 3 of the ~15 Bill Thomas Cheetahs went there, including a street version for Alan Green's wife to drive.

Lots of performance cars went through that dealer.
 
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