Chevelle_Nut
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Good you caught that, nylon gears can stop up oil pick ups if they drop in the pan.
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- Thread starter kmakar
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Id replace that with a steel set, I could never tell the nylon was quieter anyway, man that engine was dirty, can you drop the oil pan without pulling the engine completely out to replace the pan? I do agree with pulling it completely out putting it on a stand, reseal and paint it then detail the engine bay or at least pressure wash it
So the alum timing cover itself has threaded holes, I didn't realize that, one of my uncles, moms oldest sisters husband and his brother owned a body shop in Oh and bought & sold cars in the 70's and IIRC they had a 63-64 Starfire or Jet something that was a pretty fast car, they were my moms side of the family Go To car salesman lol
kmakar
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Got the new timing set on today, but had to stop to go to the Trans-Siberian Orchestra this afternoon. Tomorrow I'll clean the timing cover (which is also the backing for the water pump), then I'll drill out and helicoil the broken bolts, paint the timing cover (Olds red for '64), and reinstall. Will have to wait for a week or so to get the oil pan.
I did order trans mounts (left and right) and will see what mods I have to make between a hard top (what these are meant for) and a convertible. Hopefull I can modify them as you can't buy any trans mounts for a '64 convertible anywhere (not even used).
I did order trans mounts (left and right) and will see what mods I have to make between a hard top (what these are meant for) and a convertible. Hopefull I can modify them as you can't buy any trans mounts for a '64 convertible anywhere (not even used).
What's with the big offset washer/cup?
My guess is a fuel pump drive eccentric.
kmakar
Janitor
1971Chevelle is right, it's the drive for the fuel pump which mounts to the side of the timing cover.
Kevin,
You might want to consider a time-sert by WURTH:
Nice job so far!!! Hopefully, you won't have to pull the engine. You can really do a lot with it in place, for what you want to do with the car.
Good luck with things,
John
You might want to consider a time-sert by WURTH:
Nice job so far!!! Hopefully, you won't have to pull the engine. You can really do a lot with it in place, for what you want to do with the car.
Good luck with things,
John
I've never used Time Serts or Wurth but they get my vote if you haven't already bought the Heli coil, btw I have some Heli coils in the front end of my old Harley holding the handle bars and haven't had any problem in 20ish yrs
kmakar
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I already had the helicoils and it's only a 1/4 20 which requires 17 ft lbs of torque so I think it'll be fine.
I cleaned the cover earlier and already did the helicoils, so a little cleanup on the front of the block and it's time to put the cover and the water pump back on.
I'm waiting for the oil pan (coming from Chicago), then I can button it back up, put a new 160 thermostat and the new aluminum radiator in, all new hoses, put the new heater core in, fill it full of oil and coolant, and fire her back up.
Then pull it out of the garage for a good pressure washing under the hood and underneath. Waiting on the trans mounts and then see what I have to do to modify them to fit (different versions for hardtop and convertible).
I cleaned the cover earlier and already did the helicoils, so a little cleanup on the front of the block and it's time to put the cover and the water pump back on.
I'm waiting for the oil pan (coming from Chicago), then I can button it back up, put a new 160 thermostat and the new aluminum radiator in, all new hoses, put the new heater core in, fill it full of oil and coolant, and fire her back up.
Then pull it out of the garage for a good pressure washing under the hood and underneath. Waiting on the trans mounts and then see what I have to do to modify them to fit (different versions for hardtop and convertible).
kmakar
Janitor
Got the pan sanded and primed, got the crossmember cleaned and painted, timing cover cleaned and back on, and the new water pump installed, and I'll probably have to wait until Sunday to paint those.
I figure If I paint them on the car, the bolts are also painted and it gives protection to them when I pressure wash the engine bay.
I figure If I paint them on the car, the bolts are also painted and it gives protection to them when I pressure wash the engine bay.
I think that's the way the factory did it, assemble everything then paint...well as far as you're at anyway, Kevin are those suspension bolts just below on each side? maybe in need of new rubber parts?
kmakar
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3 steps forward, 1 step backwards. Always fun snapping bolts that have been on for many years, and obviously whomever installed the last thermostat didn't do such a good job sealing it as the bolts were seized on the aluminum gooseneck.
Hopefully a little PB Blaster will help loosen it up a bit, but to be on the safe side I had already ordered a new aluminum gooseneck, but getting the bolts out may be a different story......
Hopefully a little PB Blaster will help loosen it up a bit, but to be on the safe side I had already ordered a new aluminum gooseneck, but getting the bolts out may be a different story......
I would use a MAPP gas bottle and heat the side where those bolts go in.
This engine is going to LOOK GOOD !
That fuel pump eccentric is cool.
This engine is going to LOOK GOOD !
That fuel pump eccentric is cool.
kmakar
Janitor
I figured I'd have to apply heat, but it looks like there is some stud left to grab on to.
Thanks, the idea was to paint what I could off the motor to protect it, and soon as I pull it out of the garage, pull all the accessories off (brackets and all), degrease, then pressure wash the rest, dry it, and paint the rest Olds Red the way she came out of the factory.
I admit I was surprised by the eccentric when I pulled the timing cover off, and I agree, it's pretty cool.
Thanks, the idea was to paint what I could off the motor to protect it, and soon as I pull it out of the garage, pull all the accessories off (brackets and all), degrease, then pressure wash the rest, dry it, and paint the rest Olds Red the way she came out of the factory.
I admit I was surprised by the eccentric when I pulled the timing cover off, and I agree, it's pretty cool.
kmakar
Janitor
After sleeping for 10 or so years, the old girl ran today for 30 minutes to let her get nice and warm (to check out the all new cooling system).
Smelling a hint of coolant burning (that oh so familiar sickly sweet smell), but I think it's from where it may have leaked at some point.
Everything I've fixed is good and no leaks, so I'll investigate further tomorrow. Been working on it since 5am this morning, so I've only been at it for 9 hours.
I don't seem to have the stamina I used to even 10 years ago.
Smelling a hint of coolant burning (that oh so familiar sickly sweet smell), but I think it's from where it may have leaked at some point.
Everything I've fixed is good and no leaks, so I'll investigate further tomorrow. Been working on it since 5am this morning, so I've only been at it for 9 hours.
I don't seem to have the stamina I used to even 10 years ago.
Chevelle_Nut
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